Truth-telling

A fascinating article which makes total sense to me. I’ve always believed that truth is the way to go and if you see something that isn’t “right” you should immediately bring it up, no matter the source of the “untruth.” That puts a person at odds with every power-seeking aspect of the system and their sycophants but it opens one’s eyes to how much BS people swallow everyday and hardly ever give it any thought. It’s a foregone conclusion that we will return to our “wallowing in the mud” of predatory capitalism as “they” gradually release the constraints on their COVID-19 psy-op; that people will accept greatly restricted personal freedoms believing that such will render them physically safer personally. The collective beast hates and fears self-sacrifice. It knows at some subconscious level that it has outgrown its sustainability yet will do anything to not have to reduce itself to a sustainable level. Who is going to say, “Let me die, I’ve had a good (or not so good) long life already and I need to make room for the younger ones.”? So those who would propose “change” must do it within an impossible framework – over population and over consumption – hence their own efforts are based in untruthfulness.

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In the second chapter of The Only Planet of Choice, which I am currently re-reading, the authors refer to a book called ‘Beyond the Limits’, about things like global warming and developing a sustainable future. With this in mind, coupled with a Joe Rogan interview I watched yesterday with Aubrey de Grey, a biomedical gerontologist who thinks we can science our way out of the problems caused by over-population (just as people think we can science our way out of “Covid-19” with a vaccine), I found a section titled Truth telling to be quite relevant to our present day, even though the book was published back in 1992 (by Meadows and Randers and sequel to ‘The Limits of Growth’).

The transition to a sustainable society might be helped by the simple
use of words like [visioning, networking, truth-telling, learning, and
loving] more often, with sincerity and without apology,
in the…

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12 thoughts on “Truth-telling

  1. Phil Huston

    The issue with bandying the word truth in countering cultural and political “truths” is that the FaceBook style of confrontational exchange of ideologies has never worked. Will never work. You’re dealing in personal truths, regardless of their level of enlightenment. Plastic in the ocean is bad. Okay. Objectively true in so far as the planet’s ecology is concerned. Personally false if you consider making a fortune in plastic idealistic and appropriate.
    But consider – If you contribute to that island of waste with the altruistic effort of printing protective face gear with plastic weedeater line to protect health care workers in a time of considered crisis. Protective gear to be used and tossed into the ocean with water bottles and six pack straps. Is it evil? Which is the greater “evil”? Is an “evil” processed through altruism and empathy still “evil”? Where are the object and subject of the “truth” when only perception defines them? A truth like the temperature of the sun may be held as true without us, until the sun expires. A truth such as whose opinion is more valid, I say it’s true, you do not, how does that equation resolve? Who is to say who is lying, and about what, and to what end? Even with those answers, which contain more personal or institutional truth than absolute truth, who stands more on the side of righteousness if both parties “believe” their truth to be valid.? Truth as subjects without object is opinion. And, as earlier, the FaceBook faceoff ‘my way is better’ is maybe better for whoever believes and perceives their truth in the face of other “truth”. How do we know all that plastic is bad? Maybe the planet wants us to purge ourselves from its surface and we are being manipulated on a far grander scale than our personal, institutional or political “truths” allow.
    Just sayin’. Beyond the objective, truth is a hollow log filled with chaos, and I’ve yet to see a “right” answer. Except to how hot the sun is.

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      1. Phil Huston

        More to the point then. Opinion is not truth. Like your response to the coke gig. If you feed hungry babies with a paycheck derived from those who knowingly market bad health and destroy the planet is it evil or altruistic? Do the means justify the end? If so then any “justifiable” truth contains no objectivity and is no more than opinion. The temperature of the sun is what it is, with or without human perception. Human activity is perception, not truth. What humans choose to believe can be completely wrong in the face of a uncomfortable, incontrovertible truth. Like the Earth not being the center of the solar system. The ultimate truth is that when we finally discover it all the human belief system speculation won’t matter. Is just is. Everything else is an argument looking for a place to happen.

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      2. Sha'Tara Post author

        OK, that makes sense. I’m comfortable knowing there is no such thing as “the truth” but it remains that there are truths though they are subject to change without notice. BTW when I told you why I found it “comfortable” to remain with Coke with the same reasoning I would have given to remain at the cigarette factory, or to hand out packs in a mom and pop store you didn’t take up my “challenge” that the choice, to buy and imbibe or smoke is the inalienable right of the buyer. There never was any force involved, barring the cutesy commercials with the polar bears and such but since Coke’s poison was banned from elementary schools that took that problem out. Am I the nation’s conscience? Am I the people’s health advisor? I was approached by well meaning health nuts quite regularly while struggling with beat up one-armed bandits and I always told them the same thing: I’m not the problem, in fact Coke isn’t even the problem. The problem is a bunch of self indulgent brain deads and their so special predatory capitalist system so why don’t you go tilt at those windmills? I won’t accept the role of scapegoat in an undisciplined, selfish, gluttonous pig-at-the-trough society, Phil. If I, who could have the poison for free, could avoid wallowing in it, so could anyone else. I’ll tell you this, that most, if not all, of what is wrong with society can be traced back to bad individual choice. That includes food choices, entertainment choices, political choices, religious choices, education choices (the poorest child has access to some kind of libraries and peers who can teach to read, write and cipher) – I’m sure I’m overlooking some obvious choices individuals can or could make if they made some effort to develop a sense of morality and personal justice or just the desire to better themselves or rise above the lowest common denominator of their neighbourhood. Then there’s the choice to FIGHT for what one considers important. That’s the hard choice. Ever watched the movie, “Music of the Heart” starring Merryl Streep? True story.

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      3. Phil Huston

        “Silkwood” is another good one. But, since I’m throwing stones in the water to watch the ripples, selective muck raking is still selective muck raking. On the one hand you repost the cry to confront all things mistruth and an affront to humanity but add the selective clause. The concept of free will and rights is distinctly euro-Christian. The Navajo and Hopi, speak of walking in beauty (harmony) and their “job” is to accomplish that. I’m not sure the Romans believed in anything but slave supported Hedonism. The point there is that belief systems are merely templates for justification. “I (we) do it this way and a bunch of us agree.” (And blame these other people when it’s fucked up.) As you said, tilting at windmills. To some degree we are all victims of tainted enlightenment. It comes with the human condition.

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      4. Sha'Tara Post author

        I totally agree with your assessment in your comment. I have tried, I mean really tried, to discover some way to “speak only truth, always truth” and have it come out as truth and not as self-contradictory garbage… and frankly, I’m still sending out garbage. It’s like a curse or like trying to catch a trout with your bare hands. You can clearly see it, you can reach down and touch it but when you try to bring it up it has slithered out of your grasp again. So, instead of laughing at the exercise you try to make something of the effort and end up talking about “the fishing” but mostly, as you clearly imply, you’re not feeding anybody, just satisfying the self. Well, you got me this far, now I have to think again – that’s the painful part! Thanks, Phil.

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  2. Brian

    Thank you for the reblog and for expanding on it with your own insight.
    Regarding a point about “plastic being bad” but “plastic PPE being good”, perhaps if we didn’t live in a world where harmful (and harmfully discarded) plastic did not exist as a choice then neither would COVID-19 exist. They can both be said to exist because of poor/wrong/harmful decisions.

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    1. Sha'Tara Post author

      That viewpoint is where you will find me standing, looking beyond the horizon. Take for example predation. It is my contention that predation is not a natural event but the result of unnatural intervention at some point in the development, not just of this solar system, but of this universe. It may be that all the great evils we have faced and continue to face, and which may well spell the end of life on Earth all stem from that one source evil.

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